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Member of the Anti-Suicide Wiki Ring

When you are alone...

by [TheRogue]



This wiki is password protected now, due to idiots who enjoy destroying wikis. Message me or [Yuriona] for the password to add your name to the list

Warning Signs of Suicide


Talking about suicide.
Statements about hopelessness, helplessness, or worthlessness.
Preoccupation with death.
Suddenly happier, calmer.
Loss of interest in things one cares about.
Visiting or calling people one cares about.
Making arrangements; setting one's affairs in order.
Giving things away.




This is an excerpt from my journal in 1995. I cannot save everyone, nor can I be there for everyone who thinks that nobody cares. I wanted you to see this, because it shows that I have been where you may be now, and I am still here (meaning that I am still alive and kicking, btw.. I am past this point in my life now and very glad I didn't give up..). Life is always hard, and you get through it and it will make you a better person, even if you don't think it will now, or you think that your problems are all your own. It will not be easy. But you will look back in 10 years...and realize all the things you would have missed if you had committed suicide....


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There are very few words...which can comfort
a severely suicidal person. These are a few things that may help if you know someone who needs to talk...a few suggestions i've found that may help as well...
* I hope there will be something I can say to you now, that will help you find a reason to stay alive for another day - find a reason to bear the unbearable pain until relief comes.
* Find something or someone to live for, for a little while
* Let someone help you through and beyond this horrible, but temporary time in your life.

Just remember...

*You can always kill yourself - l a t e r ---Just don't do it now.
* Put it off - for another hour, another day.
* Give yourself a chance to get help.
* If you had cancer, or a heart attack, you would suffer then too - in a different way - but you would let it hurt till you could get well.
* If you can decide to let it hurt, without acting on the impulses for a little longer, with the right help, you could feel so much better that one day...



Other Wikis and Help Resources

If you have an Anti-Suicide or Anti-Cutting wiki, you may add it here for everyone to see. Sort of an Elftown Webring. Message [Yuriona] or [TheRogue] for the password.

Stories of Survival
Counselors of Elftown
You Are Not Alone Created by [Here's where the story ends]
Anti-Suicide Created By [i am jack's box]



Hotlines and Contact Numbers


www.save.org Suicide Awareness Voices of Education website. Some good stuff in there about it and how to get help.
http://www.psycom.net/depression.central.suicide.html A bunch of good resources, links and hotlines.

1-800-SUICIDE
1-800-743-2433



I may be setting myself up for a giant family sized helping of stress, but I would like some volunteers to join me here...people who don't mind talking to others about their suicide/cutting problems, and trying to help them through it. If you are interested, please put your name below, because I can see that there are more than just a few people who desperately need someone who cares, and I can't turn away from them even if I wanted to, so I am going to need some really good help..If you are quickly discouraged, or cannot listen, or think you have a one message answer to give to people that will miraculously cure a persons desire to die, then don't bother joining. It does not work that way.. this is something that will perhaps bring you into a world of stress and heartache that you might not be able to handle..and sometimes.. it will be time consuming...working back and forth with people, trying as best as you can to help them see that their world is not better off without them. I will set the names in two categories.. Suicide and Cutting. If you rather help one or the other, put your name with the corresponding title, so that anyone who visits this wiki will know who they can contact for help. There is alot of pain in Elftown... I hope this works even for a few people...and remember.. that you cannot save them all.. but you can sure as hell try...[TheRogue]


People in Elftown you can message if you need someone to turn to


WYAA Suicide Volunteers

WYAA Cutting Volunteers



If you support the cause, Help by volunteering, or want to help, feel free to grab a banner for your house

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If you are there, in that dark place with nowhere else to turn....remember that you have people who love you...remember Elftown and think of the people who's lives you touched, and will never be the same without it, who care about you, even if you are miles away, because they do. I care. And I don't have to know you to do that. I know where you are, and where you've been. Think of someone else's pain, before you give in to your own...

[TheRogue]



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2004-12-03 [Sirfy]: my wiki was one of the wiki's of the month and is on the Herald o_o still un-noticed, lol

2004-12-03 [whispered_pain]: strange *makes more cuts* why do you help those who dont ask??

2004-12-03 [TheRogue]: need some help guys.. [Darkside Of Ambition] seems to be needing some saving? I was messaged today about it and i am stuck at work and can't do much right now.. anyone wanna volunteer? Thanks

2004-12-03 [Yuriona]: I'll give her a shout and see if she wants to talk.

2004-12-05 [Love Is Just A Catchphrase]: [Darkside Of Ambition] is one of my friends. she is going through a rough time right now. im trying to help her out too..

2004-12-05 [Sirfy]: im glad there's people who like to help others :)

2004-12-05 [Love Is Just A Catchphrase]: yep.

2004-12-06 [whispered_pain]: what is it that causes you to help those who dont want it??

2004-12-06 [Yuriona]: Some people just can't stand to see others in pain and try their best to put a stop to it. The problem with that is if the person you're trying to help doesn't want it or doesn't believe that they need it, it often causes resentment. It's never a good thing to force 'help' on someone just because you think they need it. Of course, there are other ways of dealing with such folk. Just talk to them and be understanding without trying to force your opinion on them. You can still do a lot of good without trying to 'fix' someone's problems.

2004-12-06 [whispered_pain]: what if they cut for other reasons than trying to forget pain or other reasons what if they are like me and cut to watch the blood or cut because they love the feel of pain??

2004-12-06 [Yuriona]: I'd say you have an unhealthy appetite for masochism but it's your choice. *shrugs* I on the other hand prefer to inflict the pain on others. Over the years I have learned to control my urges to hurt others or myself. It simply does not fit into the life I have chosen for myself.

2004-12-06 [whispered_pain]: hey if you ever feel the need to hurt just ask me and ill let ya hehe

2004-12-06 [Yuriona]: *smiles* Thanks but I'd rather keep my demon in his cage. Once given the taste of freedom, such urges only grow stronger.

2004-12-06 [whispered_pain]: *looks happily* ok well if needed i can help i may seem sick and twisted but i can be kind

2004-12-06 [Yuriona]: Most people have dark sides that they don't readily admit to having. ;)

2004-12-06 [whispered_pain]: i have a dark side that i love to have

2004-12-06 [Sirfy]: some dark sides can only hurt yourself and others around you (not physically) Which is what I have tried to change. I only like to help those who believe they need it, or simply want someone to listen. If they really don't want the help, I can still be there to listen if needed. I have no experience in cutting...because physical pain would just add on to the mental, making it 2 prolems to worry about...so I'm not sure of how to approach those situations o_o

2004-12-07 [moonbug]: it's getting to know your dark side and dealing with it that is sometimes a little hard to handle at times.

2004-12-07 [Yuriona]: I agree with you there moonbug.

2004-12-07 [whispered_pain]: with some cutting takes away the mental pain because physical pain is easier to deal with but thats not why i do it

2004-12-07 [demonsky]: cutting has been known to be a way of letting out the pain..its like a getaway

2004-12-07 [Jeesum Crowe]: When I cut, my mom took me to a psychiatrist, and I explained to him that I cut because it was like everything terrible could just bleed out. I think that's how I saw it while I was doing it. Today, I realise there are so many healthier, cleaner, more logical ways to go about fixing problems you have inside, but at the time, and I think other people have seen it this way, that it should make sense that problems inside should be able to come out through openings on the outside. I guess that's how it worked in my head. I don't know if anybody ever thought of it that way, though.

2004-12-08 [whispered_pain]: i do it because i love blood and pain they are what keep me going

2004-12-08 [demonsky]: yes...still today i miss the feeling...i do love the taste of blood..my own..cause i love vampires..but all together ive been fighting no to go back to cutting

2004-12-09 [whispered_pain]: i see

2004-12-09 [demonsky]: anyone who needs to talk to me..iam a counselor for cutting and suicide...ill be more than happy to help

2004-12-09 [Erinnn]: me too if n e one ever wants to talk im allways here for support just message me

2004-12-09 [Pyro Mac]: ill help to

2004-12-10 [whispered_pain]: pyro whats up man hey do you wantto hang out with me and jake friday??

2004-12-14 [Pyro Mac]: mabye...i think i have to go to eldora

2004-12-14 [Janouk]: I think we must realize that people don't hurt themselves only by cutting. Some people also hurt themselves in other ways, like bumping their head against a wall or hitting themselves…

2004-12-14 [Pyro Mac]: i used to bash my fore head into walls and burn myslef...but that was me...i stoped all of that

2004-12-14 [Yuriona]: *holds up hand* Yeah... I'm one who likes to bash her head into things. I've had the knife in my hands many times but just couldn't cut.

2004-12-14 [Janouk]: I sometimes can't help to hit my arms so they'll turn blue, I think that's because I want to prevent myself from throwing things or something... But I don't really do that very often... I would never cut because it leaves its marks. You'll always be reminded, because you have scars all over your arm. That keeps me from cutting. A bruise will disappear.

2004-12-14 [Janouk]: I once knew someone who bashed her head into walls, but so hard I really believed she would crack her head one day...

2004-12-14 [Pyro Mac]: ill have these scars for a long time...but ill try to let it remind me of happy times...like when i stoped

2004-12-14 [Sirfy]: guess that's a good way of looking at it.

2004-12-15 [whispered_pain]: i wish i could leave scars real deep just to remind ofhow much it hurts because i like personally and i bash my head i many thuings and my friends dont even notice which is sad bu oh well it doesnt matter for toomuch longer

2004-12-15 [Sirfy]: I have a 'friend' who keeps saying he's gonna kill himself. Everytime something bad happens he says he's going to and I believe almost attempts it. I've helped him on 1 or 2 occassions, but now I think I'm simply giving up. He doesn't care about himself obviously to even try to be better. He came for help, and he shuns advice. Haven't talked to him in a few months.

2004-12-16 [whispered_pain]: you obvoiusly dont care enough to help then cause ifyou cared even a little you would keep trying

2004-12-16 [Cathos]: You can't help someone unless they want to be helped. End of story.

2004-12-16 [Janouk]: Just try not to give someone up. My best friend is on the edge of comitting suicide, and I know it. I just can't help her but I think I still am a good friend to her and she can talk to me about her feelings and problems...Being there for someone sometimes is good enough...

2004-12-16 [Sirfy]: he wanted help, but everytime he'd ask for it, he'd ignore/shun everything that was every said to him. He doesn't really care enough at all. I care about him, but all he does is ignore what I say when he comes to me. (eventualy taking his anger out on me in the not so good way) I have tried for over a year, and no matter what I do or say, he does the same things. I'm not the only one helping him either...he asks other friends as well...ignores them too. If all he's going to do is ignore me when he asks for my help, I don't see a point in trying unless he's actualy going to listen.

2004-12-17 [whispered_pain]: hmm maybe he thinks you dont understand??

2004-12-17 [Sirfy]: There's nothing much to understand, lol. He's told me everything and its not that complicated to get.

2004-12-17 [Erinnn]: well, a while ago i came here looking or help and it worked but i still get urges to cut, doesnt mean im gonna die tho, cutting isnt allways a suicide attempt it was a way of releasing my anger, if he has elftown get him to come to this site for help if not get him to tell you his problems then put them on this page and we can try and help

2004-12-17 [Sirfy]: Whenever I get the chance to talk to him again I will. And cutting still isn't healthy :\ May not be a suicide attempt, but it still isn't good.

2004-12-18 [whispered_pain]: no what i mean is that he mght not think that you actuallyget what itfeels like

2004-12-18 [Sirfy]: all he explained was his gf left him. I've been cheated on many times, i know how it is to be hurt in relationships. He has family problems, but I can understand how he must feel...not that ahrd to put yourself in someone elses situation (depending on the person, some people can't do that)

2004-12-19 [whispered_pain]: i know but maybe it isnt you but him he might think that you dont get it even though you do it is simple to understand what im saying but lets say it is a similar situation i could be saying this you could be understanding it but i might not think you do (just an ex.)

2004-12-20 [naughty_goth]: whispered shut up nobody cares you backstabbing basterd

2004-12-21 [Cati Stormweaver]: ok, i just wanna vent here...... I've just been in total hate of everything lately, suicide crossed my mind a couple times too. See, it like all comes down to this stupid crush i have, and he used to be on of my best friends, but yeah, i ruined our relationship, so now he fucking hates me i think, and ive had a crush on him for over a year and it just it starting to get to me! Ive been trying to get over him since may and we were never anything, i just like him alot, and i cant forget. I like lie on my bed at night crying thinking about him. And even worse is that my friend, on a day i gave this guy a note like thing, she told me that she "liked" me that way, and i thought i was okay with

2004-12-21 [Cati Stormweaver]: it until i got home, and i was in my room throwing things and ripping stuff apart, and i cryed so much i wiped my eye makeup off cleaning and almost fell over. Then my other friend who is a girl calls me up on the same day and says she likes me too! I was sitting at my coputer that night going psycho, i grabbed this red lipstick on my desk and marked 2 red lines on both my wrists

2004-12-21 [naughty_goth]: hmm that sounds kinda harsh you need to talk to nayone about it??

2004-12-21 [Cati Stormweaver]: sorry i didnt have time to finish last night.... after i marked those lines on my wrist, i grabbed a knife and held it to my wrist, and i was wondering if it would hurt very bad just to jab it all the way through, but i didnt, i threw the knife away. And ever since i asked that guy out and he rejected me, the next day after that i was trying to fake a sickness, and i started hearing voices, she says her name is Sylvia, and shes a red dragon, i see her every now and then, and she constantly telling me that he likes me but he afraid, and im always telling her to screw off, but shes been there for almost 8 months, she wont go away! Right now ive just been really moody, and im angry alot,

2004-12-21 [Cati Stormweaver]: i look like im just real depressed though, and i wanna go back to a psychatrist, but my mom wont let me, she thinks their all fake and that mental illness isnt real. She wants me to talk to her about it but i dont feel comfortable talking to a closed minded homophobic whench like her, she'll only tell me im imagining everything, that im not hearing voices, that im not depressed, and that i just should get over that guy, which ive been trying to do for the past 8 months..... alright im done.

2004-12-22 [Cati Stormweaver]: and can i have advice, i dont know what to do.... im about to start cutting again, i thought i was over months ago

2004-12-22 [whispered_pain]: alright its kinda hypocritical for me to talk to you about not cutting but i have different reasons but cutting isnt a way to help it only causes lots more problems making it all worse if need be try finding non violent ways or at least non harmful to yourself andothers i mean even if you need to you can use me to yell at and take youranger out with words i dont mind but ya try not to think about all the bad and onlythink of the good (i know a lot harder than it sounds but at least try) and if you need someone to talk to ill listen, oh and naughty goth go eat shit and die

2004-12-22 [naughty_goth]: damn right its hypocritical whisper you cut everyday and dont tell me im wrong ive seen the marks

2004-12-22 [whispered_pain]: fuck off im trying to help someone you pain in the ass

2004-12-22 [naughty_goth]: you will regret backstabbing me you know that right?? i will make you suffer

2004-12-22 [Miss Demeanours]: ive just stopped cutting.. my parents told me that even thought i thougfht i was only harming myself i was harming others... including my family and my boyfirned.. who nearly broke up with me over it because he couldnt see me do it to myself.. my parents have been nothing but supportive now... but they have ignored it in the past... i made my step dad cry when he found out,... and im now doing all i can to stop... dont give a shit if i hurt myslef but cant hurt others throhg my actions....

2004-12-22 [Cati Stormweaver]: well, i was about to do it one night, but i didnt feel like getting up to go find a razor, so i just forgot about it, but its all the other shit that makes me cry at night thats getting to me, i like dont have any true friends, my friends change every year, or i lose one each year, like all the friends i had back 3 years ago are gone, mainly because i ruined the relationship

2004-12-22 [Erinnn]: if u go to my house there is all my veiws on cutting at the bottom of the page..

2004-12-22 [naughty_goth]: i know why whisper cuts and it pisses me off

2004-12-22 [Erinnn]: why?

2004-12-22 [Erinnn]: why does it piss you off i mean?

2004-12-22 [naughty_goth]: cause he is a masochist

2004-12-22 [Erinnn]: that why it pisses you off??

2004-12-22 [naughty_goth]: yes

2004-12-22 [Erinnn]: hmmm....... y does he do it?

2004-12-23 [naughty_goth]: he is a masochist

2004-12-23 [Erinnn]: yeah but there's gotto be a reason behind it all

2004-12-23 [naughty_goth]: he loves the feel of pain thats what it is

2004-12-23 [whispered_pain]: ya so what about it pain feels good to me and it isnt any of your business

2004-12-23 [naughty_goth]: you are so stupid whisper

2004-12-23 [Yuriona]: Hey now... we all have our reasons for self-harming and none of them are good but belittling someone for it is harsh and uncaring. I understand your anger [naughty_goth] but please keep your angry remarks to yourself or to private messages.

2004-12-23 [Sirfy]: Gah, I need help...but I would need it now or in the next 2 hours (on a messenger like AIM/MSN ) one of my friends is ignoring me :( so can't get it from him. My aim is DragonSirfy and my MSN is LegendaryDragonz@aol.com

2005-01-03 [whispered_pain]: hmm well goth whatever it doesnt matter anymore its all finished soon

2005-01-03 [Erinnn]: hey look if some one wants to self harm its up to them i mean u(goth) were tlking to the wrong person about this, i mean if u went on my house you would see that cutting has become a huge part in my life, people have their own reaasons for it, and really no one can make them stop, its up to them to decide, as you have to wan to stop to stop

2005-01-03 [Janouk]: I think we have the right to at least once try to make them stop cutting themselves. I understand that it's their own dessision, but you never know if it's really what they want. Some people cut themselves to get attention to their problem.

2005-01-03 [Jeesum Crowe]: Yeah, I know. This page isn't about FORCING someone into not cutting. It's about helping them to decide not to cut, and then helping them through the stages of that descision.

2005-01-03 [Janouk]: Exactly. That's bothering me though. I do want to help someone with suicidal thoughts, but in the end it's up to her what she does with her life, I can't decide over that...

2005-01-03 [Erinnn]: its the same as if someone was smoking cigarettes people can ask them to stop and it will go on and on because its an addiction and they have to decide for themselves that they want to stop, its your right as a friends to ask them to stop but what people dont realise is that people wont neccissarily do something just because you tell them too

2005-01-03 [Yuriona]: ANd if you push someone too hard into quitting, it can do more harm than good. It takes a lot of time, patience and understanding to help someone through an addiction and if they aren't ready to give it up, trying to force them to will only cause them to resent you. And that can be more terrible than the addiction itself.

2005-01-04 [Sirfy]: if someone wants to stop, you can give them tips on how to stop...little advice if they wish to follow.

2005-01-04 [naughty_goth]: it doesnt matter do you know how many promises he broke by cutting again?? a lot of people were hurt by his stupidity

2005-01-04 [Sirfy]: its his life. It may not be the healthiest way to live it, but if that's how he wants to live it, then there's really no stopping him

2005-01-04 [naughty_goth]: none of you fully understand

2005-01-04 [Sirfy]: we understand that its wrong to try and force someone into doing something they may not want to do.

2005-01-04 [naughty_goth]: just nevermind you dont understand what im trying to say

2005-01-04 [Sirfy]: i understood what you said. As they said above, it may be an addiction to him. You can't just stop overnight...its not that easy. Also, you don't explain things well enough for anyone to understand. You say something, but the meaning could be totaly different than you put.

2005-01-04 [naughty_goth]: he didnt try to quit overnight and i understand what its like to cut asshole i used to and i type it easily enough to understanbd

2005-01-04 [Sirfy]: all you said was he broke promises by cutting. Doesn't really say much really. I can read that and think of many different things. And please refrain from namecalling, its pretty pointless when you do not make yourself clear enough for me to understand. (I understood WHAT you said, but obviously you are meaning otherwise from what you stated...so please explain yourself more before calling me anything else)

2005-01-04 [naughty_goth]: hmm how about i tell you no and you just fuck off cause i dont have to state it any clearer

2005-01-04 [Sirfy]: I see no reason for how you are talking to me. I understood wrong of what you said...there is no reason to cuss me out because of it. You can't expect me to understand something when not enough information was given to even know what you really mean.

2005-01-04 [whispered_pain]: goth please calm down, sirfy im sorry for his actions he is just really mad at me cause i broke a promise to him so please understand

2005-01-04 [Sirfy]: I just didn't like being cussed at because he kept telling me I didn't understand, when what he told me had a different story behind it than what was said. But...I understand and will butt out of these things from now on. No use for me causing more problems. Good day.

2005-01-04 [Jeesum Crowe]: Well, that was interesting.

2005-01-04 [Yuriona]: Interesting is one way of putting it. That's twice now that [naughty_goth] has behaved less than appropriately on this wiki. Once more and I'm reporting him to the guards. This is supposed to be a place of support and understanding, not a place to take out your aggressions on others. He may be angry at you [whispered_pain] but that is no excuse to take it out on someone who just tried to help.He certainly is not going to win anyone over with that attitude nor is he going to help you with that attitude either. This is your last warning [naughty_goth] then I'll report you to the guards.

2005-01-04 [Jeesum Crowe]: Seriously, though, if what we do on this page is argue with those trying to help us, we will get no where and give a bad name for the page, preventing others from the help they want or need.

2005-01-05 [demonsky]: .. yes we are here to help not put them in more of a dump.. if anyone has a problem just talk to the counselors and just spend however time they need

2005-01-05 [goneinsane06]: Hello, I would love to apply for a job as a counselor on this wiki if anyone minds.

2005-01-05 [Yuriona]: Don't need to apply just send me a message letting me know what you would like to counsel for and I'll add your name to the list.

2005-01-06 [naughty_goth]: imvery sorry i just snapped is all i am kinda in the middle of some nasty stuff and i couldnt handle the pressure im very very sorry

2005-01-06 [Yuriona]: I understand your frustration [naughty_goth] but snapping like that doesn't get you anywhere. Trust me...

2005-01-06 [demonsky]: hey as long as you know your mistake and learn..thats what matters

2005-01-06 [Jeesum Crowe]: Yeah. So. OK. We're good, let's move on.

2005-01-13 [goneinsane06]: If anyone wants any private sessions, I'll e happy to take your messeges ok, I'm here for all of you, the distressed, and depressed.

2005-01-15 [naughty_goth]: im ok now but thanks all for not killing me hehe

2005-01-26 [goneinsane06]: Chill we're just here for help.

2005-01-26 [goneinsane06]: Who's the head of this page anyway?

2005-01-26 [Jeesum Crowe]: [TheRogue], as it says 'By: [TheRogue]' in very large letters at the top... mmm... *stares at gone*

2005-01-26 [naughty_goth]: *looks back and forth between crowe and gone*

2005-02-11 [goneinsane06]: Eh w/e, so I guess buisness is slow which is good, LMAO.

2005-02-11 [naughty_goth]: ya but for what reasons, it could be a bad thing that business is slow if you take the timeto think about it

2005-02-21 [eyes of frost]: you know...trying to make banners and things for thispage are hard...they are either to big or to small to see....

2005-02-21 [naughty_goth]: that could be a problem

2005-03-09 [Cati Stormweaver]: ok i guess i should put this up, i think im might be on the edge of going bulemic, ive always been worried about my weight but its been getting bad lately, i have this stupid crush on this guy for a year, i asked him out last year, he rejected, and ever since then ive been blaming myself for not being pretty enough or skinny enough, last week i almost carved his name in my leg (i didnt though), i once even almost smashed i mirror i was looking in. But almost everyday i try to make myself throw up, i never get anything up though, and ive been doing it for almost a month, and ive been binging lately too, i can feel my stomach getting bigger.....

2005-03-09 [Yuriona]: *hugs* Cati my dear you are only 13! You shouldn't be worrying about such things. I know, I know... easy to say when you're an old woman like me huh? You know what, you shouldn't let one guy make you doubt yourself. You are beautiful no matter what any guy says and if he rejects you that's his loss not yours. Be proud of yourself! Believe in yourself! He's just one guy and trust me, there are lots of them out there. Don't give up and don't be discouraged! You have so much time! Be picky... don't go to them, make them come to you. Love yourself, believe in yourself and so will others. You are special just the way you are and the hell with the loser who couldn't see that. *HUGS*!!

2005-03-09 [naughty_goth]: wow

2005-03-10 [Cati Stormweaver]: yeah.. and that pussy fake asked me out today all he does is take advantage of me and ignore me, he USED to be one of my best friends, but ever since i asked him out last year he seems to hate me.... i dont want anythig to do with him anymore....

2005-03-10 [naughty_goth]: that sounds like a good idea to me

2005-03-10 [eyes of frost]: Blah. How come people are rude? I mean only the ones with the power are mean. And then they never beileive anyone...It makes me angry that you can be nice to someone and then have them turn around and be completely arrogant assholes. Excuse the language.

2005-03-10 [naughty_goth]: i dont try to be rude and i have no power lol so eh

2005-03-10 [eyes of frost]: Yea but...ack. I don't want to get booted for saying anything so I will shut up.

2005-03-10 [naughty_goth]: well if you need to continue just message me ill listen

2005-03-10 [Yuriona]: O_o Booted?? For expressing your opinion?? I don't think so.

2005-03-11 [Cati Stormweaver]: yeah i hate him..... he ruined me ><'

2005-03-11 [naughty_goth]: well just rebiuld yourself or find the proper guy to help

2005-03-11 [Cathos]: Its much better in the long term to do it without a guy, even though its a bit harder. I should know. I was happy, I was stable at last, then he left me.

2005-03-13 [naughty_goth]: i see

2005-03-15 [Cati Stormweaver]: yeah like when we where really good friends, i was stable and happy

2005-03-15 [naughty_goth]: ah

2005-03-15 [eirame098]: I know you've probably heard this a lot, but I'd like to join because I like to help people...theres a password? Can I have it?

2005-03-15 [Cathos]: Message [Yuriona] or [TheRogue] for the password. Glad to have you. :)

2005-03-16 [naughty_goth]: interesting

2005-03-17 [tomfucker]: well I would like to help out helping people

2005-03-18 [naughty_goth]: cool

2005-03-18 [eyes of frost]: -does a dance- 3 banners made! yay!

2005-03-20 [naughty_goth]: lol

2005-03-21 [*~Sora~*]: *peeks in at them and smiles*

2005-03-22 [naughty_goth]: hey sora

2005-03-23 [*~Sora~*]: *smiles a little* hello goth...

2005-03-23 [tomfucker]: so how do I get added. as a Counselor that is

2005-03-23 [Yuriona]: Read the text at the top of the wiki.

2005-03-23 [*~Sora~*]: oh, I know you have to message [Yuriona] or [TheRogue] and ask for the password!

2005-03-24 [naughty_goth]: so whats up

2005-03-24 [*~Sora~*]: *gives him a look like don't ask. Her wrist was bandaged again*

2005-03-25 [naughty_goth]: *hugs* what did you do??

2005-03-26 [Vampiric Wolf Archer]: Hey all...

2005-03-26 [*~Sora~*]: ...the same thing I always do...I cut myself, but i'm fine...*waves, then moves her wrist away from goth just in case*

2005-03-28 [naughty_goth]: *licks a fang* i wouldnt drink unless told i can hehe

2005-03-28 [*~Sora~*]: ...not that...I don't care...just I don't want anyone to do anything to me...

2005-03-29 [Cougar]: A man should live if only to satisfy his curiosity.

2005-03-29 [Jeesum Crowe]: CURIOUSITY KILLED THE CAT! And you're a Cougar!

2005-03-29 [Cougar]: Cats have nine lives... ^.~

2005-03-29 [Jeesum Crowe]: They get awful curious a lot.

2005-03-29 [Acidic Khemica]: ............

2005-03-30 [naughty_goth]: i almost died from curiosity more than a few times lol

2005-03-31 [Our Lady of Sorrow]: lol im VERY curious never almost died lol

2005-03-31 [Acidic Khemica]: ....

2005-03-31 [*~Sora~*]: ???

2005-03-31 [Our Lady of Sorrow]: i dunno goth said she almost died from curiosity *shrug*

2005-03-31 [Acidic Khemica]: oh hmm

2005-03-31 [Our Lady of Sorrow]: i dunno lol im confused! ahhhhh *twitch*

2005-03-31 [Acidic Khemica]: lol

2005-03-31 [*~Sora~*]: 0.o  @@

2005-03-31 [Acidic Khemica]: lol

2005-03-31 [Oh! Its a Riot xx]: hmm . hello

2005-03-31 [Acidic Khemica]: hello

2005-03-31 [naughty_goth]: hey

2005-03-31 [Acidic Khemica]: hola

2005-03-31 [naughty_goth]: whats up

2005-03-31 [Acidic Khemica]: lol

2005-03-31 [naughty_goth]: what??

2005-03-31 [i am jack's box]: Hello ppl. Hows life?

2005-03-31 [Our Lady of Sorrow]: wonderfully shitty but what else is new lol how are u?

2005-03-31 [i am jack's box]: mine is wonderfully shitty too. I am alright, just a lot of shit to be done within the next 2 months.

2005-03-31 [Janouk]: Is it also ok to get rid of your story here? Just telling what's on your mind? Or is this especially about helping with actual advice? Just wondering...

2005-03-31 [TheRogue]: I'd like to think it's whatever a person needs at the time.. i'm not here much because of work, but I'm hoping people are still doing good things for others through this wiki.. Is there something you want to talk about? If you have a story to tell, write it up and I'll see about making a stories page.. :)

2005-04-01 [i am jack's box]: i have some dark issues that i need resolved. I am in this shit hole boarding school where i am the scapegoat of life and ppl just like to pick on me. I first said nothing, then reported, then pretended lilke I was crazy and barked but now i am starting to let my inner anger out a little more at these kids. Do you think if i show them not to fuck with me that they will stop? or will it progress?

2005-04-01 [Cougar]: I was the school bus scape goat when i was younger... I donno if this will work for you but it got my largest adversayr off my back. I stared at something around his head blankly anytime i saw him. I didn't talk unless he talked first and i would do nothing but stare at that one spot... it drove him nuts because he would tell me to stop staring at him and i would say i'm not staring at him.. heh.. it's childish..but it worked for me. First they torment you more.. then they worry about how you will react to them.. then they leave you alone... bliss. even if they will always think you slightly nuts... >.>

2005-04-01 [Cougar]: word of warning about "acting like i'm nuts" ... heh.. You might wind up slightly nuts if you do act it.. becareful how far you take that "acting'

2005-04-01 [i am jack's box]: well, i play lacroose with these assholes now so i have an excuse and the right to beat them with my defense stick. not to mention i tell them to fuck off or else we should settle it there.... i have boxing in my blood ^^

2005-04-01 [Cougar]: well there is a solution... *shrugs* just don't get in trouble o.O

2005-04-01 [Janouk]: TheRogue - Well, I'm having less problems at the time but I do think I need some advice or someones opinion on something... And I guess I just need to talk to someone else for a change... I don't know if it's a story which will interest someone though, and I don't even think I know exactly what to put in it and what I see as problems, and what I don't. I'll think about it. ... And thanks again, it's good for people to know they can talk somewhere ^^

2005-04-01 [Our Lady of Sorrow]: Janouk- if you ever need someone to talk to feel free to just give me a message or IM me at dreamcatcher1189

2005-04-02 [LonelyTylenol]: I don't know what it is, but I noticed that during the time between marching band and speech seasons, I was more depressed than I had been all year.  I mean, some... bad stuff happened in that time, but I think it has to do with competition, and something to get my mind off things. Thoughts? I mean, I went as far as something I had promised myself I would never do again. I was scratching at my wrist. It was something I did once before and I hated myself for falling back to that...

2005-04-02 [eyes of frost]: What happened to make you so depressed?

2005-04-02 [LonelyTylenol]: My uncle got really sick and then a car crash killed someone at my school...

2005-04-02 [Acidic Khemica]: *sighs*

2005-04-02 [*~Sora~*]: ...a car crash killed a kid that went to your school? That happened to me too...was his name Willy?

2005-04-02 [Acidic Khemica]: hmm

2005-04-02 [*~Sora~*]: nope, just read your house...hmmmm...but that's weird...Willy was a senior at my high school who just died in a car crash also...

2005-04-02 [Acidic Khemica]: odd

2005-04-02 [*~Sora~*]: isn't it? What else is he died right before his birthday....it's so strange

2005-04-02 [Acidic Khemica]: yeah and a friend of mine died in a car crash like a week ago

2005-04-02 [*~Sora~*]: What's up with all of these crashes?

2005-04-02 [Acidic Khemica]: i dont know

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